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^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 03:59:47 1998 207.214.13.53) viking: Thank you very much :)

^ drdan says: (Wed Oct 7 03:59:42 1998 208.255.240.184) OHHH I forgot to say hi to viking. HI VIKING! You didnt get that name from the Minnesota Vikings did you??

^ drdan says: (Wed Oct 7 03:58:07 1998 208.255.240.184) Hey Grin, Spike, Blade, and all the rest on this morning.. And any of those just lurking! This is a drive by (hopefully, so im not later for work.) Were you guys on last night Charisma stopped by.. I know Blade was..

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 03:57:22 1998 195.198.198.238) Spike Hi! If you check your email you should now be a proud owner of the addy. :)

^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 03:53:48 1998 207.214.13.53) Grinn: Or if you wanna mail me that addy, that'd be cool too *grin* Spike

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 03:52:36 1998 209.112.159.87) viking: I believe it's at http://www.getright.com for a free month long preview. And, it's pretty self explanatory. It also does alot of other stuff, too. (Resume broken links on most servers, speed things up, ect. Great thing to have. :-))

^ Karent says: (Wed Oct 7 03:52:15 1998 169.207.108.80) Deadguy: When people gang up on Buffy, its usually because they think she's being selfish - a subject Cordy knows a lot about. So she can actually empathize with Buffy, knowing that what appears as selfishness can be something else entirely. Morning Blade, Alex, Grinn, Spike, Malista, Sherbear, Viking, Melanie, Tiamat, erestor, LB, and soon to be here Manx, ValMichael, Angelique, Jaal. Morning Kim P. Karent, GASPer, Buffyatric

^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 03:51:09 1998 207.214.13.53) viking: Hi, I'm in New Zealand, so we're behind in Buffy too (plus I'm missing early eps) so I would very much appreciate it if you could mail me the addy of that site as well... and I'd also recommend GetRight... it's fantastic cos it resumes http downloads yay! Spike (addy is xanderboi@hotmail.com)

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 03:48:44 1998 195.198.198.238) Grinn No, I don't have GetRight. Do you know where I can get it and how does it work? The strange thing is that the first file I downloaded still works(it was a little bit smaller than the second one) but not the second one.

^ Blade-The Vampire Hunter says: (Wed Oct 7 03:41:44 1998 12.68.65.218) Happy Birthday Sarah W. Happy Birthday WinterRain Continuing shoutouts to Grinn , Lady Bathroy, Spike, & viking Off to the salt mines...work...yadda, yadda, yadda President Blade's Posting Board Status The Nazi regime which runs my server at work has blocked the posting board with a firewall. Thus, until I can figure out a way around it, I will be limited to posting before I leave for work (about 6:15am est) and some nights when I come home (about 6pm est). I know...it sucks, but know your President will always be there with you. For immediate response to important stuff, e-mail me at the addy above. Blade-The Vampire Hunter

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 03:41:43 1998 209.112.159.87) viking: Hmm. Not sure. Do you have GetRight? It'll save that stuff directly to your c: drive. No muss, no fuss. I'm using it right now. :-)

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 03:39:02 1998 195.198.198.238) Grinn When I moved the movie-files from my Temporary Internet Files-directory and then erased all files in that directory I could no longer look at the movie files (something about an URL error) Do you know why?

^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 03:37:08 1998 207.214.13.53) deadguy: I think Cordy has a soft spot for Buffy despite the way she chose to ally with the 'geeks' right back in WTTH (though it was only part choice) ...it's my personal opinion that as she's grown up she's been tending to not automatically judge people by social standing (except as old habits dying hard) and she was naturally attracted to Buffy right at the start... I mean, face it, apart from the Vampire Slaying gig, they would (especially if you look back at the BtVS movie character) have a lot in common.. however, this is probably all babble so I'm lurking now Spike PBA #223 slavish VT devotee, and recipient of snarls sometime LOSER and Coffee Clubber Sarah-S.O.T.A #104 TTWCABWTTFSMG#5 BAH Room #826 (Spike/James Marsters floor)

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 03:32:37 1998 209.112.159.87) viking: Thanks. Now maybe I can have something to watch other then all those episodes of South Park on my computer... :-)

^ Blade-The Vampire Hunter says: (Wed Oct 7 03:32:05 1998 12.68.65.218) Post Buffy Tuesday shoutouts to the usual suspects including, but never limited to deadguy, Malista, SheBear, Grinn, Tiamat, Mircalla, BarryTek, Occido, Shannah, Kim P, Fatima, devil, Yooper, Night Owl, ~sara~, Lady Conesssor Tee, AKABECKER, Cricket, Chameleon, belmont, Fatima, AliCat, Sasheer, RD, -mere-, TV James, and the rest deadguy I think Cordelia has always had a soft spot for her perceived underdog (i.e. Marie Antoinette in "Invisible Girl"). When she saw everyone ganging up on Buffy, I think her natural instinct was to step in and help. Blade-The Vampire Hunter President of the Whole Wide World non-slavish Sasheer, Charisma, Sophia, & Erika Amato (VC) devotee

^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 03:32:03 1998 207.214.13.53) Happy Birthday SarahW Happy Brithday WinterRain Hope you both have a fabulous day... lurking, Spike PBA #223 slavish VT devotee, and recipient of snarls sometime LOSER and Coffee Clubber Sarah-S.O.T.A #104 TTWCABWTTFSMG#5 BAH Room #826 (Spike/James Marsters floor)

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 03:31:24 1998 195.198.198.238) Grinn Hi! Check your email. :)

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 03:31:16 1998 208.253.73.170) Well, since everybody else is leaving the Dead Man's Party ... I think I'll bail too SherBear: Where ya been?? Gonna try & get that "surprose" in the mail to you bee-fore the end of the week. G'night all & don't let the bed bugs bite ... Unless you want them to.

^ mélanie says: (Wed Oct 7 03:26:49 1998 164.138.87.76) just a drive-by. hi everybody. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SarahW and, *gulp*, OZ=EVILi can't believe i just write that. big hug Sarahw. i hope you'll have fun if you decide to party tonight.

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 03:23:23 1998 209.154.98.37) *LB* -- LOL! Good night! And I'm outie, too, gang. I have got to stop going to bed at 6:00 A.M.! Good Night SOs to all who herein linger, lurk, dwell, snooze, or drift..... Malista

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 03:21:04 1998 207.175.238.144) Malista Alpha Slayerette? LOL! I have this picture in my mind of Xander in black leather with a stake holster aboard the Enterprise! Well, I gotta call it a night. Sweet dreams everybody!

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 03:19:22 1998 209.112.159.87) viking: Could you email me the addy for that site? (Don't post it to the PB...)

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 03:18:53 1998 209.154.98.37) viking -- Somewhere there is a site that has a tape exchange posting board, too. I don't know the URL, but maybe someone else here does. For fastest getting of tapes, I'd think finding someone in Northern Europe who has them and is willing to make you copies (of the from-broadcast type, not, of course, the commercial tapes, cause that would be wrong) would be the best way to go. I hate to think of anyone not being able to see the whole run of the show. Malista

^ SherBear says: (Wed Oct 7 03:14:57 1998 203.12.97.5) Malista Thank you s-i-s. I am deeply grateful. lol! customs forms, shmustoms :) Never payed them the respect they deserve! I'll wait in eager anticipation to be able to talk the episodes with yawll! :)

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 03:14:38 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista I don't know if they are going to take a break after the second season. If they do I hope that they show reruns of season 1 so that I can catch up, it seems impossible to find the movies but I thank you for your help. I found a site on the net where you can download whole episodes but there wasn't every ep and I also ran into a little trouble when I tried to save it to my hd(I hope I can solve it). "tack för hjälpen"="thank's for the help"(I wonder how the Swedish signs will appear)

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 03:11:46 1998 209.154.98.37) SherBear -- !!!!!!!! I'll put your tape together tomorrow, and depending how my adventures with Customs Forms go, you should have the first two eps of the season within a reasonable time. Won't ship surface unless air is more than my allowance for the week. ;-) Mal

^ BarryTek says: (Wed Oct 7 03:11:35 1998 207.25.35.3) Buffy Rules! Is that original or what?

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 03:09:37 1998 207.175.238.144) Goodnight Erestor

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 03:08:53 1998 209.154.98.37) deadguy -- I think Cordelia respects Buffy, and relates to her more than even she is aware of. And sometimes I think she takes Buffy's side to tick Xander off. ;-) Malista

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 03:08:25 1998 208.253.73.170) Okay, I must register in ... back on a semi-normal topic ... DMP rocked. Am I the only who's smelling another Emmy for Todd & crew?? The man is an uber-genius! Alex: Way way off topic, and I'm hoping you can answer this, but ... Why has no one tried to assassinate Clinton?? Ya know, Reagan had Hinckley, Ford had Squeaky Frome, Bush had a couple of whackos, Lincoln had Boothe, Hamilton had Burr ... Where Clinton's Whacko??

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 03:07:59 1998 209.112.159.87) Malista: 'S okay. Maybe you just claim it for yourself, like England did with America. "What? Someone else was here, first? *blam* Not anymore!" ;-)

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 03:07:49 1998 207.175.238.144) Alex *applause, applause* Wow, you nailed it. Xander just can't grasp that she really loved him. (because he's never felt it himself?) And he will never forget the "I got there first" remark. With Xander being so stridently unsympathetic, perhaps he will be the one to drive Buffy "over the edge" and make her want to tell the truth of what happened.

^ SherBear says: (Wed Oct 7 03:06:56 1998 203.12.97.5) *waves* Glad to see LOSERs is back!!! *poof*

^ deadguy says: (Wed Oct 7 03:06:16 1998 151.204.196.153) today's shoutout goes to devil! yay devil! today's question is brought to you by swindlecom, sunnydale's mysterious artifacts importer/exporter. when the chips are down, cordelia takes buffy's side more often than not. why do you think that's so? #) buffyatric jp gang member #58 in BAH room 501, cordelia floor.

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 03:05:46 1998 209.154.98.37) Grinn -- I haven't the faintest notion how one becomes a Keeper of anything, except that Giles's Keepers go through GASP. Sorry! Malista

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 03:00:32 1998 207.175.238.144) SPOILER Alex David has unruly hair? Somehow that's so .....charming! It's not that I think it was Angelus I just didn't think it seemed like Angel. Erestor Yeh, definate shades of Jenny dream! SPOILER

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 02:57:36 1998 207.175.238.144) SPOILER AKA Becker Good point re: old Froends. And hey...I thought Cordy was kinda smug too. I think they both enjoyed it. (In addition to being into eachother) But remember- Buffy was walking past them and Xander stopped her. And Cordy's never been one for tact, so why would she take a break from the ear sucking? But Xander? He could have started talking to Buffy when she didn't have to stand there watching them. Did you see the look on her face when Cordy told Xander how turned on she was? with "I'm the Slayer" of dating ringing in her ears? * Spoiler

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:56:13 1998 209.154.98.37) Good night, Becker and Erestor! Sleep good! viking -- Forgot the other part of your post. You've just seen Innocence, then, and are more than half-way through season 2. We've just had the second ep of season 3. Do you know if the broadcasters over there are going to take a break between the season 2 and season 3 eps, or show them straight through? Every country seems to be handling it differently. tres confusing! :-) Malista

^ CharlieX says: (Wed Oct 7 02:54:54 1998 208.6.38.202) Drive by © AKA BECKER Happy Birthday Sarah W. Happy Birthday Winterrain CharlieX "Love makes you do the wacky" PHBA Co-founder Head Security Officer, GFC Bronze Archivist Marathon Co-Winner @ 34 ½ hours

^ Grinn says: (Wed Oct 7 02:51:18 1998 209.112.159.87) Hey, how do you become the keeper of stuff? I was wanting to become the keeper of Will's spellbooks, if I knew how... :-)

^ Spike says: (Wed Oct 7 02:51:02 1998 207.214.13.53) Morning all... Hope you're all speechless with Buffy geeker joy after last night, which i gather was on the fantastic side.. anyway, I'm off to scroll. SOs to VT, valMichael, Closet Buffyholic, Beldaran, EverDawn, Dianne, Charlie X, 3 SDTfN, Blade, Occido, devil, Grinn, willa, Little Willow, WinterRain, BellaDonna, Anointed One, Monkeygrrrl, DGH, Legal Lurker, Savannah, Big Al, Sarah W, angle man, Macho Macho Man, gazoo, ‘stina, Beldin, ?, belmont, kyle, OzLover, anyone I may have missed and of course, fenric and all those on his list. Spike PBA #223 slavish VT devotee, and recipient of snarls sometime LOSER and Coffee Clubber Sarah-S.O.T.A #104 TTWCABWTTFSMG#5 BAH Room #826 (Spike/James Marsters floor)

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:50:46 1998 152.167.104.82) Gonna post again.. Erestor: Glad to be your Wing anytime. LB: Xander may very well be blinded by his endless infatuation with Buffy and unable to see past it as far as Angel being the one who got to her first. That and he's missing the vital part of the equation..they all are..Buffy didn't kill Angelus..she "killed" Angel. Xander views the death of Angelus as something that showed have happened long before Jenny was murdered so he lacks both sympathy and empathy in that department aided by his hatred for Angel..which I still believe is because Xand in a way feels betrayed because right as he started to reluctantly trust Angel..he changed. And I also suspect that Xand has never fully grasped that Buffy truly loved Angel and that it was more than just a case of hot chick falling for hot dangerous guy.. -Alex

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:50:36 1998 209.154.98.37) viking -- I thought Amazon.com might have expanded to videos, but I guess not. Best Video at www.bestvideo.com might have them , or you could do a search on your favorite search engine for video suppliers who ship overseas (or Swedish suppliers who will do special orders, if the tapes have been licensed for foreign sale, yet). Malista

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 02:46:55 1998 207.175.238.144) SPOILER * Alex Don't get me wrong, I've never thought Xander was a jerk. In fact, I've been impressed with his chivalry and maturity on a number of occasions. But I was surprised at how adament he has always been that "Angelus" should die. (even when Giles was not) As of right now he only knows that Buffy killed Angelus. Which to him should be no big deal. (that's why he couldn't understand how that could have been such a trauma to Buffy that she had to run away) I think his #1 sticking point is that if he really cared for Buffy he would be a little more compassionate about how killing even Angelus would be tramatic for her. It would mean the death of any hope that she could get Angel back. As for projecting his feelings about himself onto her...I don't know...... * * End spoiler.

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:46:54 1998 152.167.104.82) Erestor: I was reminded of the Jenny dream also to be honest.. Becker: I do and I will inform you as to yours and mine Yoda man Mr Ty King. Tiamat: Nah, Slick Willy is a sleaze and Santa is up from grabbies.. Mal: I concur with what you've said..I think he was overcompensating..perhaps even acting like he had to be the focus of the groups' anger.. SPOILERS * * * It was my feeling that Will was going to have a heart to heart with Buffy when she walked in and saw Buffy packing..anyone agree/disagree? * * * SPOILERS -Alex

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:43:04 1998 209.179.24.192) Alex: You're a worthy wingman, I'll be careful thanks! And with that I'm sleepy bound. G'night all! Good night Ty King wherever you are! Erestor Proud Buffyatric, Member - BWGDC, BAHer - Room 903 (Dru’s Floor) Asst. Clinic Director, Newbie Wing, GASPer - Keeper of Giles’ Jungian Analysis, WPWP 83!, Sarah S.O.T.A. 32!, GDLM 6! (Ý Jenny Calendar), BKA 19! BRLQ 77!, UBC 244!, L.O.S.E.R!, BFL!

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 02:42:25 1998 152.206.128.180) OK all, I'm off to sleep finally. A rare day spent almost entirely, not just posting on-topic, but making HUGE posts that were ontopic! :-) Marti Noxon Just plain rocks! :-) Alex: You'll have to let me in on your understanding of the Ty deal when you send me that e-mail. I'm way too out-of-the-loop on him. You know better than most about his being my Yoda. Good night and sweet dreams to one and all! --AKA-- m-B-d "Gone. Note the economy of phrasing."

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 02:40:22 1998 208.253.73.170) AKA & Alex: May bee I'm reaching, but don't bust my illusions man. Next thing I know, you'll bee telling me that Santa Claus doesn't exist ... and, that Bill Clinton is an honest, faithful & loyal husband. The Krispy Kremes donut thing bothered me too. A girl's gotta have some dreams ... Can't she?? Ty was, in the past, gonna try to get Joss to at least visit Seattle.

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:40:12 1998 209.154.98.37) Tiamat -- I'm thinking; basic Shout Out type thing, no more. And I think it could well have been that, since Ty and Joss are buds. :-) SPOILERISH MORE OR LESS *LB*, Alex -- I expect that Xander, 17 year old that he is, has conflicting emotions. He was certainly showing Buffy that he didn't need her in his life to be happy, and I'm sure he enjoyed being Alpha Slayerette (his comment about ruining their lives for the last three months didn't really ring true, except in the "we worried about you every minute" kind of way), but I also think he was over the top with his proof of independence, and at least part of his anger was defensive -- I'll bash you before you bash me -- and another part was/is projection, as Alex says. END SPOILERISH ITEMS Erestor -- *G* Don't ask me why I know the term... Malista

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:38:40 1998 209.179.24.192) **Spoiler** *LB*: Ok, that's good...I didn't feel any love vibes in that dream tonight either so maybe it wasAngelus. There was a bluntness to his tone and it reminded me of the Jenny dream in Innocence. **Spoiler** E.

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:38:35 1998 152.167.104.82) LB: True but if the hair guy suddenly wanted David's hair which is terribly unruly to be spikey..well then...that wasn't Angelus though because Angelus has never been that subtle..it doesn't track..what's worse than Angelus in her dreams? Angel blaming her.. Erestor: *snort*..just watch your six. Tiamat: You're stretching.. -Alex

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:33:13 1998 209.179.24.192) Alex: Yes, very conceivable as Xander has many issues to face in his own life. He runs away too just in a different way...and BTW Krispy Kremes donuts are expanding their stores to the west coast, oh joy.

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 02:32:42 1998 152.206.128.180) I thought I was way way overposting, but I have yet to break the rules tonight! :-) *LB* That and the fact that her old friends in LA didn't have deep conversations. Kinda like old Cordy. As far as your comments (not to me) about Xnder being "smuggly preoccupied" with Codelia, I think I would be preoccupied too, but Cordy was the one who had to be forced to stop and notice Buffy's presence. Interesting. Nah, I wouldn't be olblivious to my surroundings if I was making out with Cordelia/Charisma. no, not at all. BTW, want to buy a bridge. ;-) Tiamat: Joss' way of saying he's moving to Seattle? OK, now you're reaching. :-) sleep comes swiftly... --AKA-- m-B-d "I took a small step, and there conclusions were."

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 02:32:20 1998 207.175.238.144) SPOILERS * Alex Her pain is way far from over! Erestor- What got me was that in an interview I read David B. said that you can tell when he's Angelus because of the spiked hair (which he had tonight) Also, in the Beach Dream, Angel hugged her and told her he would never leave. But also said the hurtfull "net even if you kill me" The Angel we saw tonight didn't hurt her or anything but where were the love vibes? That's why I'm not sure who he was one way or the other.

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 02:31:30 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista I'll be having lessons for at least 2 years so I will have time to learn you a lot. :) I was just wondering how far behind in the episodes I am, in the last ep here Angel became his old self again after sleeping with Buffy(I have no idea what season I'm in). Do you have any other suggestions where I can find episodes to buy, I checked out Amazon.com but they only had books(I want the movies).

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 02:31:12 1998 208.253.73.170) AKA: Seattle's Best Coffee was what was blurrily seen on the coffee cups ... Ty lives in Seattle (sorta). Soooo, you're gonna bee doing the Valley Boy thing. I'm a born & bred Valley Girl (North Hollywood) who's been transplanted to the real Hellmouth, Seattle (sorta). Why are you moving to Sherman Oaks?? Job?? You'll have to check out the Pizza Cookery restaurant, that is if they're still open ... great antipasto salad & garlic rolls

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:29:58 1998 209.179.24.192) Lady of Buffdom: I know exactly what you mean and one of the strengths of this show is that it has something for everyone to like. Have a good night's sleep : ) *LB*: I see ya : )

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:27:52 1998 152.167.104.82) Tiamat: Now I know you're reaching. You're goiing Shal on me. Remember awhile back in KBD they had Krusty Kremes or something like that..a company that's not even from California. Same principle. My understanding of Ty's current situation makes it highly doubtful that Joss is trying to send any incognito messages. SPOILERS * * LB: I've never seen Xand as quite the jerk everyone else does. He genuinely and quite affectionately cares for Buffy but was deeply hurt by her betrayal because part of him(IMO) is angered by what he sees as his betrayal of her. Yeah, he was the leader..NightHawk and all and the Cordy thing was obvious but there is a lot more at work there and I'm thinking Xand was in affect also calling himself an idiot. Conceivable? * * END SPOILERS -Alex

^ Godeater says: (Wed Oct 7 02:27:43 1998 209.148.137.157) Drive-By... Ok, just posting to say that Chapter 10 of my fanfic, Waking the Dead is done. Everyone on the Mailing List should have it any second now. Plus I've sent it to Lisa to put up on the site where my fanfic is located. That site is here! If anyone wants to be added to the mailing list, email me and I'll send you a Word file with all 10 chapters. Ok, I'm up way past my bed time. Night everyone! Godeater Something interesting goes here...

^ Lady of Buffdom says: (Wed Oct 7 02:24:24 1998 134.69.7.204) I'm about ready to hit my ever-welcoming pillow, so hope everyone has a good night!! erestor - I agree that the "Plunge and move on" thing would get old, and I'm certainly not saying I don't want the other things to show up around the Hellmouth (Joss forbid I came across like that, even though I think I did), but if we're going to focus on non-Hellmouthy stuff (how to get through the results of last summer, etc.), I'd stick with the simpler version of the creature features, IMHO. Maybe that's why I'm in the sciences and not into the visual arts/performance. Feel free to reply if ya like, I'll be sure to check. -Lady of Buffdom I'm off to battle the insane teacher...wish me luck and the power of the Slayer!!

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:23:51 1998 209.154.98.37) viking -- Can't think of anything offhand, but we'll be talking a lot, I imagine, as long as you keep having computer science/programming when I'm on the PB, so I'll hope to build a small vacab of phrases over time. :-) Malista

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:23:25 1998 152.167.104.82) Mal: Oh I agree..I don't want a debiliating break-down..more a cleansing loss of emotional control..the walls splintering and coming down. A difference there. Too true. -Alex

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 02:22:57 1998 207.175.238.144) Erestor I'm not bailing yet :) AKA Becker You're right, Giles is smart, and they do have that in common. Remember Buffy having such intense fears about her father and the divorce but in her talk with Willow she reiterated several times "But he comes down on weekends!" Perhaps she's grown too used to getting out her aggression in a physical sense and talking actually comes in second. SPOILER Alex He also called her an idiot. My guess is that Xander's ego has grown by leaps and bounds this summer. After all, when Buffy's away, he's the leader. He gets a code name and a walkie talkie (want to bet they were both his idea?) And I actually thought he was rather smugly preoccupied with Cordy during the party. He was one satisfied homeboy! * End spoiler

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 02:21:41 1998 208.253.73.170) Alex: Nope, not trying to "reach." Just noticing something that most people wouldn't. Too many similarities to Scooby & Seattle bee-ing the true Hellmouth. It's like Joss is trying to tell Ty to move from Seattle bee-fore all Hellmouth breaks loose. Or, it could bee Joss' way of telling Ty that he's gonna bee moving to Seattle. Mal: Got a magazine yesterday that's got a recipe for a fine looking Bee Juice Spice Cake ... Thinkin' I'll have to bee makin' it for Dr Hunky.

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:20:00 1998 209.179.24.192) Malista: I stand corrected feeble obeyer of law enforcement that I am : ) *LB*: Ok now I'm confused a bit more. Pretty cryptic even for a dream. I didn't see and Angelus connection, perhaps the tone of his voice clued that in for you? E.

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:19:04 1998 209.154.98.37) Lady of Buffdom -- I'm with Erestor in that I also like the MOtW eps, and would find 22 eps of vamps pretty botring. Half the fun of watching is to see what twist Joss and crew will put in old favorites (they haven't done The Blob, yet...), and giving Buffy new challenges in the Slaying department, since she already knows how to overcome vamps and can do the drill in her sleep. Alex -- I don't think, as I've said before, that a total breakdown would play in TVland, mostly because it takes so long to truly recover from one, and we can't have Buffy out of commission for that long. I do think Xander has some major stuff he needs to understand and face, and while I don't think he was wrong to withhold the info about Willow trying the curse again, there's fallout needs to happen and be dealt with. I think the one who will be the most horrified, though, will be Willow -- especially after the things she said to Buffy in tonight's ep. Yes, she's going through a lot of scarey life stuff, but in this particular case, it wouldn't have been about her, anyway, until Buffy got some necessary grieving and forgiving done. Malista

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 02:18:16 1998 152.206.128.180) Xana: Goodnight, oh loopy one! ROANNA: Its Hell, I tell you, Hell! Night and feel better! I'll be on many times before I'm gone! Tiamat: OK< I couldn't quite read that. What was on the card? It looked like a movie promo. Yep, I'm moving to LA. Sherman Oaks to be exact! Alias: Night! Lady B: Night! Johnny G: Somewhere linked to this site is a snail mail addy for the cast. Check the Community Page link. The actors/actresses do not leave e-mail addies for us, if they did, their e-mail accounts would explode! But you can write them via the WB. Also, I've met most the cast, and they are genuine, really cool people. Especially Aly and Seth. I met him twice, and each time, his personality just blew me away. Among the coolest people famous or not, that I have ever met. Welcome to the Board. --AKA-- m-B-d "And that comment was said with such purity."

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:16:47 1998 152.167.104.82) Erestor: No worries. I've accepted the inherent evil of others and now find it vaguely amusing. Tiamat: You might be reaching.. SPOILERS AHEAD * * * LB...my take on that is such that Buffy has been dreaming of Angel all summer..he's become almost a companion in her dreams..whether actually Angel or her mind creating another one to help the pain. She wasn't at all surprised to see him and seemed to take it all naturally in stride. Also there was nothing malicious about what he was saying to her and I believe her words were to the effect that her pain is far from over and her life is going to continue to turn nauseatingly mad circles. * * * END EM SPOILERS -Alex

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 02:16:08 1998 204.216.157.219) BECKER Oh, that's right. It would be really hard for me to not drive from there to here on Route 66. I saw this program on this guy who drove the entire route of route 66 and photographed it. That would be absoutely the best!! Erestor Will do!! Night Malista! Ok, I'm out. Not that I'm tired or anything... I'm just trying to be a good girl and go to bed at a "decent" time.... kim!! Be Excellent to Each Other!!

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 02:14:57 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista I guess you could say "Jeff Pruitt regerar", the thing is that we use a lot of american expressions when we talk so more often we use the american way than the swedish. Anything else you want to now?

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:11:08 1998 209.154.98.37) Good night, Alias, Roanna and Xana (a ferocious hugz to you, too!)! Also Good Night to kim! if you don't swing back through before turning in. Malista

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 02:10:57 1998 209.179.24.192) G'Night *LB*! Alex: Oops!...sorry I didn't know that. Hope I don't catch hell for mentioning it. kim!: Yes, there is, e-mail me and I'll tell you where and when. Lady of Buffdom: Forshadowing on BtVS is one of the main reasons we watch! I like vampires too but all fangs all the time would bore me (remember Giles' "plunge and move on, plunge and move on " speech?). Having the MOTW episodes give us the inkling that the Hellmouth is more than about vam,pires. Just like you were saying it attracts a lot od weird stuff to it, a paranormal magnet of sorts. One is never quite sure what will turn up, hence the genius of it's existence. Thank You Joss! E.

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 02:09:37 1998 208.253.73.170) Alex, Mal, AKA: Okay, I guess I've taunted you guys long enough. The secret hidden message was the name on the cups ... Seattle's Best Coffee ... and, that Ty lives in Seattle. Pretty sly considering Sunnydale is supposedly a "one Starbucks town." Remember, there's an episode of Scooby Doo that clearly states Seattle is the Hellmouth. Ro: You of all people, I thought would see the hidden msg. AKA: Where are you moving to?? The Southern Hellmouth??

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 02:07:08 1998 207.175.238.144) Goodnight Alias Spoiler * * Erestor I think it went like this- Buffy- Where is everybody? Angel- They'e waiting for you. Buffy- I'm afraid. Angel- You should be. While we're here- did anybody else get the feeling that during the dream we were looking at a combination of Angel and Angelus? Maybe it was the spiked hair, but I wasn't really sure who I was looking at. And also, was this more of a typical "Buffy prophecy" dream than the one on the beach? * * Spoiler above

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 02:06:14 1998 140.142.172.58) One more..... AKA Becker: *ouch* A few days without the net? If I don't see you before you go Good Luck with your moving and I'll see you some other time! Ro

^ Xana says: (Wed Oct 7 02:06:10 1998 24.1.80.34) Becker has convinced me... i am insane when i am tired! Malista - hugs to you... Alias - thanks for the chat... AKA BECKER - ditto... Lady Bathory - go to bed! Grinn - let Lady B. go to bed! everyone else... you rock! Xana just close your eyes dear...

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 02:05:26 1998 152.167.104.82) LB: I'm of the opinion that Xand just needs to understand and I think this overdose of anger he he has is an outword projection of the anger he has about his own secret which I think will eventually come out. Especially since he's now yelled at her about being selfish. Xand has some things of his own to answer for. Kim!: Absoloutely. I think t'night was the first crack that given a little more pushing could have caused the wall to crumble but Buffy is a pro at plastering it back together and she did. Eventually she is going to have to face her own emotions..something made her leave..made her feel like she had no choice..she has got to deal with that or eventually it's gonna tear her up. I used to be a proponent of a complete breakdown but tight now I just support a loss of emotional control in front of the gang..I think that's where it should be..and I think it would be a poignant if not terrifying experience for the gang. -Alex

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 02:04:20 1998 209.154.98.37) Erestor -- I can tell you're a good, law-abiding citizen. It's "hot wiring," not "jump starting." ;-) And I agree totally about Gile4s's past, which is why I think he understand's Buffy better than the others. He, too, ran away from his destiny when he was young, and did assorted other stupid and selfish things. viking --- I can do that one! Copied and pasted so I can get Himself to drill me on pronunciation tomorrow. How do we say "Jeff Pruitt kicks ass!" in Swedish? Malista

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 02:03:27 1998 140.142.172.58) Thank you Erestor! *smile* I better go get some sleep.... My head is going to explode any minute now. Good Night L.O.S.E.R.s.! See you guys later! Ro

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 02:03:14 1998 152.206.128.180) ROANNA: I leave the 14th, scheduled (hopefully) to arrive the 17th. Will be online as soon as my phone lines (yes I will have a second line just for the comp, the room is already wired for it!) are turned on. :-) kim!: According to my map things, I have to go west to Wyoming, then south west through Utah into Nevada and then into CA. I'll be north because I want to stop in Chicago first. *LB* Everyone is making me think! Its 5am! Neither of them like to talk about things. It's totally withing their characters. His reaction to seeing her at the door was tempered at least by everyone being there too. They'll talk when she's ready. I think he will try not to push her on the subject, unless she does/says things that make him feel that she must be pushed to talk about it. He's a very smart man. Tiamat: Just rewatchted and have no idea what you are talking about. Alex: E me anytime, since my e-addy won't be changing. --AKA-- m-B-d "Nevermind."

^ Johnny G says: (Wed Oct 7 02:02:53 1998 205.188.196.48) I absolutely LOVE this show. The actresses/actors are intense and hillarious... it reminds me a lot of the crew that I tend to hang out with. It's so dope... the music, the poetry that is laced here and there; it's great. I only wish there were a way to meet all of them. I'd love to see the depths of intelligence and kindness of the cast. It seems like they're all really tight and good peops. Someone drop me a line with some info as to how to maybe write a letter (which is something i NEVER have done) or, preferably, email somehow. Thanx.

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:59:37 1998 204.216.157.219) ***** Spoilerish ***** Alex Do you think we might have seen the beginnings of that break down tonight?? It occured to me during the packing the bags to bail again, "I dont' know what I'm doing" scene that she almost broke down. I kinda wish she had, but they were rudely interrupted! But that did seem to be to be the first crack.... ***** Spoilerish ***** *LB* Well, I swear that I felt the weather change this afternoon and the weather guys said that the Santa Ana was over... but it is really dry right now... My tounge keeps drying out and I've used a bunch of lip stuff. I'm beginning to think that I now know what Impada felt like when she bit the dust no pun intended!! Well, folks... I'm going to do a few things then head out... Probably in about 15 to 20 minutes.... kim!

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 01:59:14 1998 12.64.8.158) I am off for the night! S/O To AKABecker, Alex, kim!, Xana, erestor, Malista, *LB*, Roanna and anyone else who I undoubtedly missed! Alias

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:59:00 1998 207.175.238.144) Goodnight Lady Bathory Alex Great set-up! That is exactly what I'd like to see too. This seasons equivelent of sledging the masters bones. Maybe just saying it out loud and not having the pressure to keep it a secret will lessen the pain of having it in the forefront of her mind. And you're right, it will knock Xander down a peg. He certianly needs it.

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:56:56 1998 209.154.98.37) Alias -- Why should I be the only one? ;-) If it makes you feel any better, I believe I'm the oldest person generally on at this time of night. That should makae you feel young. :-) 360Degrees -- You haven't heard me talking Danish to ducks? I thought you were there at Domaine Chandon when they all looked confused, then swam over to where Himself and I were yelling "rrawp, rrawp, rrawp" to them? No? OK, we'll speak Danish to the ducks down south next time. :-) Malista

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 01:56:45 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista Try this:"Buffy rockar"="Buffy rocks"

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 01:56:13 1998 209.179.24.192) **Spoilerlike** *LB*: Well I belive it was Giles who stopped Buffy from mentioning her summer while they were having tea in his apartment. She said "long story" but it would have come out eventually if Giles, being the authority figure, didn't nip it. Didn't Buffy's dream with Angel allude to her revealing something or facing her actions re: the Slayerettes? I'm a bit unclear and will have to watch that part again. I'm not sure about her reluctance to tell about Lily or the "time portal hellish place." I would think it's just that she needs time to sort things out as it probably took a good deal of her courage just to face her friends again. **Spoilerlikeness above** Hi ROANNA! Get better, ok? Malista: Giles it appears from his throw away comments here and there was no boy scout! I'm sure he got into some pretty interesting stuff when he was younger aside from the Eyghon spells! And didn't he say something like "Just like riding a bike" when he was jump-starting his car? E.

^ Lady of Buffdom says: (Wed Oct 7 01:56:00 1998 134.69.7.204) Hi y'all... Spoiler ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I really enjoyed tonight's episode, especially the part when Giles takes on Snyder (Yay, Giles!!!). I would love to get back to the vampire slayage thing, and do a little less with the other things that are attracted to the Hellmouth (Question: How did the Nigerian mask find it's way to the Hellmouth? Is it the evil energy influencing the actions of people who have no direct connection to the Hellmouth, i.e., the people at the museum that sent the mask to Joyce's museum...or is it just me?). I miss Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and so far, Buffy the fighter of everything else isn't working for me. I'll trust Joss to come up with the usual amazing storylines, and I do know that these other issues with Buffy's leaving need to be worked out, and the demons and such need to be secondary for a while. I loved how Buffy and Xander met for the first time when she came back, though, stakes and all. I'm sorry that I can't remember who said this, but the current plotlines are leaving a lot of room for really good stuff later on, so I'll just have to wait expectantly for that. I also think that once the Scooby Gang learns the whole story (which I obviously think they don't know yet), they'll understand more where Buffy's coming from and why she had to leave, but I still think it'll take a while to work through stuff, especially with Xander. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ End Spoiler What d'ya think? -Lady of Buffdom

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:54:12 1998 208.253.73.170) Nitey nite, Lady B ... Dr Hunky = Major Hottie Mal: Have you heard from SherBear tonight??

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:53:40 1998 152.167.104.82) Tiamat: I looked at the cups..they're blurry on the screen and there is a WB mark superimposed over one..just tell me. I hate guessing games. -Alex

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:53:38 1998 207.175.238.144) Malista Oooo! Good point. Buffy has to guess that it was the result of a Willow spell. Aside form the fact that she doesn't want them to know she did it, she doesn't want to confront them with their own "failure" of timing.

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:52:45 1998 152.167.104.82) LB: My feeling or rather my hope is that when the truth does come out, it won't be because Buffy said..now's the time but because it just became too much. My ideal scene is her suddenly snapping and losing control and in sort of an emotion release/break, everything pouring out and the gang just standing around astonished. I see Giles or Will as the first to go to her but I really want to see Xand finally get it. Finally understand. Mal: It took two times reading that to get it. Which is not to say that it didn't make sense. My mind is a bit on the whack side of the coin..no fault of yours. -Alex

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 01:50:41 1998 12.64.8.158) Malista Your making me feel very old...*grin* Alias

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:50:35 1998 208.253.73.170) Alex: Don't own any Beatles albums ... Try the "cups" on the table Here's another strange coincidence: Scooby Doo's new movie is Scooby Doo on Zombie Island ... The new Buffy episode is Dead Man's Party. Both strongly feature zombies. Hmmm ... ???

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:50:35 1998 207.175.238.144) Kim! You're more optimistic than I am. I don't think they're over yet. And it's so dry! The face cream is dissapearing fast!

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 01:48:50 1998 140.142.172.58) AKA: *smile* It would be nice seeing you more often! When do you begin your move? Will you be netless until you get settled? Ro

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:48:32 1998 209.154.98.37) Good night, Lady B! Alex -- But you know what's worse? When you get to the age where you no longer have a list of things you'll appreciate/be grateful for when you're someone else's age. Trust me on this one. ;-) viking -- Sure! But I must warn you, Himself has been trying to teach me Danish for over 20 years, and I still can't pronounce "Copenhagen" to suit him, and can't remember any of the other phrases and expressions he has tried to drum into my thick skull. I remember "Hej du" because it sounds like "Hey, Dude!" *G* SPOILERISH MUSINGS *LB* I think there are a number of reasons Buffy isn't wanting to talk about what happened. Alex covered some of them, but I think we might be able to add that she is afraid/knows that her friends were responsible for Angel regaining his soul right before she had to send him to Hell, and that she is both afraid of her own feelings about that, and doesn't want to hurt and horrify her only support structure. Or, possibly, I have too many thoughts. Malista

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:47:45 1998 207.175.238.144) Alex Do you think Buffy would tell them because she hopes they can help her, or because she really believes they can? Erestor I loved that moment! *sniffle* Spoilerish * AKA Becker Do you think Giles would have been more likely to want to talk about it if she had come to him alone? Did she not want to face him alone because she thought he would? * End Spoilerishness

^ 360Degrees says: (Wed Oct 7 01:46:06 1998 209.154.140.46) Malista: Why for haven't I heard Danish ducks? tempted for hours to join in DMP discussions but brain is stress-fried (no dental work necessary for this effect) only a prop for cats to nap on

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:45:38 1998 204.216.157.219) Erestor I worked at a place that did that. Fortunately the time clock kept it's own time and I just had to worry about punching it on or before the right time! Actually I prefer military time (well, the time that the board is on, anyway). It's more accurate. Oh, and there's a KAM dinner thingie tomorrow?? Do you know any of the rest of his Bronzer plans while he's out here?? *LB* Well, I'm glad that the Santa Ana has all but gone away. There was a fire near where my boyfriend works today. I was really nervous and tried to call. Of course he was away from his desk and I got the voice mail!! So, the evil Santa Ana made me worry about the safety of my boyfriend!! evil weather!! Night Lady B.!! BECKER You're going through col-orado?? Why not Arizona?? k!

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:43:31 1998 152.167.104.82) Becker: I'll do the whole sending e- thing when you get out here. -Alex

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:42:34 1998 152.167.104.82) Erestor: I wasn't invited. The coordinator isn't fond of me. Ask her about me..she'll tell you lots. None of it true or based in any reality that's..well reality but it makes for a fun story methinks. Tiamat: Be specific because I ain't seeing and I'm checking. By the way, do you listen to Beatles albums backwards? she joked -Alex

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 01:41:52 1998 152.206.128.180) OK, I'm rewatching the end now, but I went back too far! Ack! ROANNA: Hi! I've missed talking to you! I can;'t wait to move to your coast so that LOSER hours arent such a big deal! Alex: You are going to have to let me know where/how to call you! :-) Well, other than telling me to use a phone, I know how to do that part. ;-) --AKA-- m-B-d "Generally speaking, when scary things get scared, not good."

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 01:40:03 1998 140.142.172.58) Kim!: *smile* I missed you too! You're right school = evil. *sniff* I just want to sleep in tomorrow..... Don't you just hate going to school while you're sick? Ro

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:38:29 1998 207.175.238.144) Malista Good point re: Giles's past experience. Kim! How 'bout them Santa Anna's? Speaking of Giles's fatherly instincts, it it makes Joyce look even worse for her "I blame you" diatribe.

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:38:24 1998 152.167.104.82) Mal: Chuckle. Tiamat: I was amused. Becker: Marti is definately a trip. When Ty intro'ed me to her, I was blown away, smart funny and very attractive..and so easy to talk to..a very neat person. And I agree, only BE was a down dirty ep.. SPOILERS * * LB..because she's not ready to deal with the exact emotional ramifications of her actions. She's obviously haboring an enormous amount of guilt and pain and Buffy's track record is that she believes she can handle emotional pain on her own. She can't and my belief is that eventually she'll have to get help from the Gang to get her through it. Just the same, until she's ready, she's gonna keep it inside...simple psychology. * * * END THEM SPOILERS -Alex "Don't stop, don't stop, do not *bleep* with me." -Four Star Mary

^ Lady Bathory says: (Wed Oct 7 01:37:43 1998 152.171.79.91) Well, this lil' lady is tired, and has to sleep before having class in the morn. G'nite all. :) Lady B. Steve For Firechief... c'mon bay-beh light my fire out

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:36:16 1998 204.216.157.219) Malista Coolness!!! ROANNA Can I say that I've missed you recently?? I have. evil school!! k!

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 01:35:43 1998 140.142.172.58) Hi Mal! AKA Becker! Hi Stranger! Haven't seen you in ages! Ro

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 01:35:21 1998 209.179.24.240) Alex: Yea, it was my fault I had to help out with some last-minute revisions that I missed, and a deadline was looming large : P Perhaps next time butI will be at KAMs dinner thingie tomorrow. SO to Malista! kim!: LOL! I worked for a guy once that made us keep military time...you know each hour broken up into 6 minute segments. Now that'sHell on Earth! **Spoilerish!** *LB*: All of the above...he's The Watcher and is closer to buffy than even he recognizes on occasion. (eg. that "moment" whilst getting the tea). **Spoilerishness above!** E.

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:34:49 1998 208.253.73.170) Ro: Did you spot the secret hidden message to Ty?? Alex, Mal & AKA: It was something on the table ...

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:32:55 1998 209.154.98.37) ROANNA! kim! -- I started dubbing your tapes today. The Himself came home and flipped one over to play out of sequence, so I'll have to finish up tomorrow. Lady B. -- All dental work is evil, and I'm sorry you're so sensitive to novacaine (I'm not, 360Degrees is...). Still, I imagine having the work done beats the alternative... I'm reasonable, thanks. :-) Malista

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 01:32:47 1998 152.206.128.180) This thing about Marti working on Fantasy Island sounds all wrong. She has an office just a few feet away from RD'd desk. She lives in the Buffy offices. I don't think that she has had time to do anything else, unless it was a one off type thing. As far as her eps, Bad Eggs was the only I wasn't that fond of, and I only had minor issues with I Only Have Eyes for You, but WML1 & 2, Innocence/Surprise, BBB and this one were all excellent. Oh, she's rocks in person too. And she's a hottie on top of it all. You just can't lose with Marti but you can strike out kim!: I'm bouble checking the weather channel, but I swear that I saw that it's been snowing in col-orado in the last day or so. Erestor: Hello! I had to clarify. I was getting frustrated with people taking my arguement as that I couldn't understand why she left. She got off easy, Giles could have ripped into her as well. *LB*: Both A & B. He knows that she just got back and that if she was leaving without talking to anyone, opening right up to a whole crowd wasn't going to be tops on her agenda. Tiamat: Great, now I have to rewatch the last scene! Alias: It's all in good fun. :-) But you seem to be having font size issues tonight! :-) Lady B: I find benevolence to be good. :-) Unanswered question from before: What happened to Buffy's phone in her room? --AKA-- m-B-d "You've got the wrong number Mr. Belvedere."

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 01:32:06 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista-- I think I'll skip the ducks but I'd be happy to teach you something else. :)

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:30:00 1998 207.175.238.144) Erestor Since you hit on the same vibe, I've got to ask you this Spoiler * Why won't Buffy tell them what happened? Or at least tell Giles? When they do find out will it be because Buffy let them know at some sort of emotional breaking point or because Angel shows up and blasts her for it? * Spoiler

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:29:01 1998 209.154.98.37) viking -- Coached by Himself, who picked up a smattering of other tongues whilst sojourning in Denmark. That's my whole vocabulary, though, unless you wanna do Danish ducks... Alex -- I know.. it's that way with everything we'll appreciate when we're someone else's age. ;-) Malista

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 01:27:45 1998 140.142.172.58) Hi Kim!!!! *sigh* I can't stay on that long tonight. I've been fighting the flu for the past 2-3 days... I am on antibiotics right now and I feel very icky.... Ro

^ TechZero says: (Wed Oct 7 01:27:33 1998 208.250.120.94) Just scanning about before I hit the sack.... Nite gang. BTW, that was a great ep!

^ Lady Bathory says: (Wed Oct 7 01:26:52 1998 152.171.79.91) Mal Doin' okay, I guess. I had to have some scary, eeevil dental work done today, and now I am a bit wiggy. But it's all good. :) How've you been? I just keep missing you these past few nights. :( Tiamat Dr. Hunky = Major Hottie Steve and Stuff

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:26:14 1998 204.216.157.219) ROANNA!!! kim!

^ ROANNA says: (Wed Oct 7 01:25:41 1998 140.142.172.58) Hi L.O.S.E.R.s.! Shout-Outs to: gazoo, Ty, Alex, Fizzgig, Whelk, TV James, gypsyrat, Morbius, Lisa, mere, KMFrye, Dreamscape 205, Sonja Marie, Knightwatch, Aka Becker, Calliope, JustAnotherAngelLover, Belmont, Blade the Vampire Hunter, Fenric, Sam Hain, FOSMan, Red Rose, The Thinker, Crossbow, Friend or Foe, Luv2Bbit, Brad Grenz, PatheticMuch?, Tourogal, bfylvr9FOS, Karent, Willow_Luvr, Red Thunder, Avarice, Malista, Oz Fan, Lothos, TB, Shannah, SE, microserf, Horizon, SherBear, Ventrue, Kate228, Darkwind, Angela, Sita, Emerald, Leather Jacket, valMichael, Velocity Girl, Kazanjian, J.Estes, Stormtrooper, bec, fiver, Boywonder, greengirl, Witchy Woman, The Grinning Man, McLeod, Angle Man, Xana, Just Watching, Daphmax, Cate, Ccool, Allie, banshee lover, echo, Niall, Sparkita, Ted, banana, KAM, Roxx, SpkeLVR, HSV Finn, Little Willow, Stina, Batra, Closet Buffyholic, ChrisW, DeMoriel, Buffy13, H. Alger, Lovely Poet, KIND, Jade, NancyE, Ras, kim!, Thirdcross, Sanguineus, Pisalady, Gregg, VaBuffyFan, Erestor, Meteor, Samsara, marie101, kitty, Mabb, Roxanne, Heliconia, deadguy, Shadowslayer, The Heretic, Arsinoe, CharlieX, KrazyKat, Ryanh, Liche, Nyte-Eyes, Beldaran, JeffK, Haven, Blackheart, Zorander, MERLIN, cowdoc, Amber, the Buffy Cast/related people, the Apollo website team, and anyone I might have missed. Roanna

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:24:37 1998 208.253.73.170) Mal: Yup ... Or, you can ... Alex: What did ya think of the e-m??

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:24:36 1998 209.154.98.37) RSO to Lady Bathory! How're you doin', chica? Non-Spoilerish Spoiler *LB* -- Giles understands Buffy better than anyone except Willow, and Willow only understands the Girl Stuff better. It isn't like Giles didn't run some of the same patterns in his youth. End Non-Spoilerish Spoiler Malista

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 01:23:20 1998 195.198.198.238) Malista Hi, I see that you know your Swedish. I'm sorry that I can't join the new ep talk, but I'm a little behind in the episodes. Lady BathoryThank's it's nice to be back. :) AKA BECKER I don't think you are more nuts than me, but what do I know. :)

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:23:11 1998 152.167.104.82) Mal: Perhaps but right now it's just annoying.. Becker: You have to give me a call when you get in.. Tiamat: You'll have to elaborate.. -Alex

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:22:49 1998 204.216.157.219) ***** Spoilerish ***** *LB* or c) his protective "parental" feelings for Buffy or d) all of the above. I choose d) all of the above. ***** Spoilerish ***** kim!

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 01:20:56 1998 208.152.26.69) Alright, my sleepy half is loading the gun, I must be going before it shoots me for depriving it of sleep. I will see y'all later. Ali *poof

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 01:20:24 1998 12.64.8.158) Schools in Sunnydale If I recall correctly, In SAR they say that Sunnydale has "5" High Schools. 3 Private and 2 Public Schools. I may be wrong though... Alias Savant321 (AIM) Savant182 (ICQ)

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:20:11 1998 207.175.238.144) SO to Malista! Spoiler topic below * Buffy has stated more than once that she wants to be "alone." When she comes home all she's ready for is a simple shopping trip with Willow (who flakes) and at most a quiet dinner with just the gang. Instead, her mother invites a stranger to dinner and her friends decide to turn it into a keg party.(presumably to avoid talking to her one-on-one) Why was Giles the only one who voted for a "cheese" night, and told everybody not to "grill" Buffy about where she had been? Is it- a. Just his nature b. because he understands her better? * Spoiler above

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:19:32 1998 209.154.98.37) Tiamat -- Oh, you're gonna force me to watch the ep again, aren't you? *G*

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:18:07 1998 209.154.98.37) Ali -- Marti's writing has been a little uneven, maybe, but she penned BBB last season, and DMP came well up to that standard, at least. I hadn't heard she was working on Fantasy Island, too. Interesting! Malista

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:16:56 1998 208.253.73.170) Mal & AKA Becker: The secret hidden msg was ... in the last scene ...

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 01:16:12 1998 208.152.26.69) Malista I loved the ep. I have heard some pretty questionable things about Marti NOxin. There are alot of people who dont like her work. Did ya know she is working on Fantasy Island? Ali who is really thinking about leaving her Bronze Buddies

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:16:03 1998 204.216.157.219) Erestor Well, I've turned jobs down before, too. Interesting feeling! I'm not sure there are many people who like time clocks other than time clock manufacturers or distributors!! k!

^ Lady Bathory says: (Wed Oct 7 01:15:22 1998 152.173.69.82) Mircalla Now I am thinking Steve + Cool Whip. Nite! AKA Becker This dentist is new, and right away I have scary dental procedures done. Suffice it to say, I was tense. And being loopy off of novocain is not fun. Thanks. Ahh, benevolent as well as powerful. I am groveling in spirit Malista Hey there! viking Good to see you again. :) Lady B. With all this interesting topic stuff, I lurk. :) Steve, yeah!

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 01:15:15 1998 12.64.8.158) AKA BECKER This is me sticking my tongue out at you...*thhhppptttttt*... Ok..childish I know but its done in a benovolent sorta way :P Can't believe I missed Keith... I think in these last 2 episodes we have seen enough foreshadowing for the season..at least for the next 8 eps. SPOILER My personal fav so far has been Snyder's comment to Joyce when she tells him she'll go the mayor if she has to and he replies "That could be interesting..."...Makes you wonder. END SPOILER Alias GASPer/Keeper of Giles Consulting His Books Keeper of Angel's Rage Keeper of Ethan's Secrets XDC #42 PBA #28 because it's better than a tawdry affair! ChoirBoy in the Church Of Newbieness Aspirant to the Church of KMFrye (that would be non-slavish)

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:14:40 1998 209.154.98.37) Ryan -- Joss was saying earlier tonight that he's wondering WUW no previews for next week, too, and isn't happy.

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:14:16 1998 204.216.157.219) BECKER You're expecting snow in October?? Where?? k!

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 01:14:15 1998 209.179.24.240) kim!: Really well thanks...turned down another job offer today and you don't know how good that feels! Well ok maybe it doesn't make youfelld good but I like not punching a clock. Thanks for the local Bronzer list BTW : ) E.

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 01:12:19 1998 152.206.128.180) Viking: we were disecting the new ep like nuts. But that makes sense since we are nuts. Tiamat: What Ty message? Alex: I leave the 14th, and I hope that all goes well (It's already snowing in col-orado and my map says to go that way!) and I'll get there on the 17th. But snow and my father can slow me down, but hopefully neither will cause issues! I must move now! CD1106: Thanks for the info! You are a good friend, my friend! I'll see you soon! Xana: I'm sorry you are having AIM issues. Since I'm on aol, AIM is permanent and you just don't get booted. But at the same time, the only happy faces you see look like this. :-) :-( :-) --AKA-- m-B-d "And now for a taste of things to come!"

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:12:17 1998 209.154.98.37) viking -- Hej du! Nothing very big, just the second ep of the season and it ROCKED! Malista

^ Ryan says: (Wed Oct 7 01:12:14 1998 152.163.195.202) Hey guys and gals. I was just wondering what the deal is with the previews. I'm not getting any at the end of the totally kick ___ season 3 eps of Buffy. I was also wondering where I could get my hands on some of those new Buffy cards. I said it once and I will say it again, I love that woman!! Another question.. when is Buffy going to mention to Giles about those Devils she wasted? Don't you think he should know? And will someone please please PLEASE tell the writers to have Buffy bust out with the crossbow more often? She looks so good with it. Bye. - R

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 01:11:54 1998 209.179.24.240) Lady of Buffdom: return SO coming your way! <*LB*: Totally agree with you about the momentum thing. I was so happy watching DMPtonight because it had so many of the elements that make me love it so. We're in for some major action this season and yes, I think the Scooby Gang will come to understand better what the Buffster was going through as the season progresses. Alias: Sure didn't look like a Starbucks to me either. I'll have to watch that scene again but it looked like the ice cream place Willow refers to in WTTH. G'Night Mircalla! Sam Hain: Start saving that change and we'll get you a fake ID, kay? E.

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 01:11:47 1998 204.216.157.219) RSO Erestor!! How goes it?? k!

^ Malista says: (Wed Oct 7 01:10:07 1998 209.154.98.37) Alex -- When you're a few years older you're gonna be so pleased you have the genetic good fortune to look 16 at 20, cause that will likely carry on. :-) All -- Do we feel a tad better about the season, now? And how much do I think Marti Noxon ROCKS?!?! Tiamat -- What secret hidden message? Malista

^ Ryan says: (Wed Oct 7 01:10:06 1998 152.163.195.202) Hey guys and gals. I was just wondering what the deal is with the previews. I'm not getting any at the end of the totally kick ___ season 3 eps of Buffy. I was also wondering where I could get my hands on some of those new Buffy cards. I said it once and I will say it again, I love that woman!! Another question.. when is Buffy going to mention to Giles about those Devils she wasted? Don't you think he should know? And will someone please please PLEASE tell the writers to have Buffy bust out with the crossbow more often? She looks so good with it. Bye. - R

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:09:42 1998 207.175.238.144) Heres a tid-bit for you- SPOILER 5 4 3 2 1 Joyce mentions sending Buffy to "Miss. Porter's" There really is a "Miss. Porter's School" for girls in Farmington CT. (it's commonly refered to as Farmigmton) Jackie Kennedy and Barbara Hutton went there. 5 4 3 2 1 Spoiler

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:07:34 1998 152.167.104.82) Becker: I can't tell you how mcuh I'm looking forward to seeing you again my friend. Ae you still out here on the 14th? Anyone else think that the music was a bit "Children of the Cornish" t'night? -Alex

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 01:05:49 1998 195.198.198.238) Hello again everyone, the Swede is back. Do you have any interesting going on tonight?

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 01:04:48 1998 208.253.73.170) Woo hoo ... More evidence supporting my theory that Seattle is the true Hellmouth. Did anyone see the secret hidden message for Ty ??

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 01:03:58 1998 152.206.128.180) Alias: Hello there! About KMFrye: Yes, you missed him. Yes, you missed him. ;-) BTW, I think that you just summed up what the perfect description of Anne should be. And why I thought it was really an excellent ep, because of how well it did what it had to do. A great quote from Mortal Combat: "And now a taste of things to come!" It was a total bridge ep. Taking us from B2 and sending us into the entire season. Little things were there, near cameos from charaters past (and I believe) future were riddled throughout. Other than the overlong homeless person thing on the streets, there were no wasted lines or shots. Everything had a reason and fit a purpose, be it immediate, past, or future, the writing was tight as hell. And it was easy to have that lost by looking at the ep as a demon ep, or a homeless ep, and not an amalgamation of the seires from B2 (and bits before) through ep whatever this season. Alex: I only know that ep 7 was not written by Marti Noxon. Her next two eps are 4 and 9. See ya in LV! Mircalla: Understood. :-) Night! Lady Bathory: Sorry you are under the novacain wackiness. I hate the dentist, actually, I like my dentist, I just hate the proceedural stuff! Shouldn't we be wishing someone a happy birthday right now? --AKA-- m-B-d "I'm OK with the dip."

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 01:00:54 1998 152.167.104.82) Av: Very astute. Acually there is no gel in it right now and I got carded twice today. Ince to pay a lotto ticket and the other time for cloves. They thought I was like sixteen and both guys had the nerve to chuckle when they saw my ID..they still couldn't believe it..frankly I was insulted.. Xana: Glad to be of service. Erestor: Howdy..I'm sorry we missed you Friday.. -Alex

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 01:00:04 1998 207.175.238.144) Goodnight Avarice Happy re-watching and sweet dreams!

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:57:22 1998 209.162.40.137) Alex, cool! :) Can't wait! I guess calling you Captain Spikey would get my a$$ kicked, huh?!?!? ;-) *LB*, loved it! :) The convo between Buffy and Mom in the beginning had me squirming and uncomfortable... a show or movie hasn't done that to me in ages... damn, that's good writing, acting, direction, etc!! :) Overall, great ep! I'm excited for next weeks ep! Need more! Need more! Gimme More!! :) Sorry, but I'll be able to discuss this more rationally when I've seen it again (and had some sleep)... But I shall return! Nite, kids! SO's to (ladies first!): Strigoi, Batra, Fizzgig, 4paws, 'stina, Xana, Moriah, Emerald, Bridget/scotlore, SherBear, gazoo, greengirl, Lady Bathory (your Evilness!), KrazyKat, Meridaen, bufucla, bookish_girl, Captain Alex, Bree, Dreamscape205, Malista, MuffyTVA, Witchy Woman, Roanna, Erika Amato, Destructo Girl, kim!, echo, figaro, *LB*, Godeater, alias, Aiglos, abpesq, Todd McIntosh, Ty King, AKA Becker, TV James, fenric, Sigil, AngleMan, Blackheart, GrinningMan, Laurence, CharlieX, Brad Grenz, Slay63, JS_Mill, Trigger, matsuterwilliger, and SPENCE! Super SO's to the entire Cast, Crew, Writers, and Stuntfolks: thanks for changing my way of life! Xtra special SO to SMG (ya know, the whole adoring fan thang)! Avarice Proud Buffyatric & BATOS Supporter of Things That Need Supporting SDA Relations -- keeper of the dingo pup Bingo Sarah-S.O.T.A. Member #77 -- "... Like a steel trap!" Ban The First?, Member #4 UBC Member #189 -- "Man, are these tapes worn out already?!?!" BAH Room #605/Giles Floor -- "Who needs sex when there's books?" AMC Member #31 -- "You're a witch..." -- "No, that's my mom, remember?" PBA Member #120 -- "Really, I was just checking my E-mail!" BRLQ Member #32 -- "Well this is just... neet!" LWLB #9 -- "Always forgive Righties... they don't know any better!" Wannabe Member of the Official Ty King Fan Club... There is one, right? Chief Custodial Engineer of the BAH Mr. Gordo & Ms. Edith in 1998! the Books of Buffy and the Occult "Got Dingo?" Sign up NOW for the Vegas Halloween PBFP Bash!

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 00:56:44 1998 209.179.24.240) AKA Becker: Hi and thanks for clarifying your opinion. I was having trouble keeping all of the opposing viewpoints straight, as crossreferencing is not one of my hobbies, and I'm still processing tonight's excellent episode. **Spoiler** We had portents of the Xander speech a couple of times before it happened, once as they went to see Giles Xander makes a joke about hiding or getting out of the way and when they were examining the cat he is clearly pissed off (or not interested) with trying to console Buffy at her house the next night. With Cordy around he can supress his anger but the Joyce rant brings it up really quickly. This is a riviting scene and made me hold my breath. Buffy's being kicked when she is down and it's hard to take because we know more than Xander about the final fight with Angelus and the gut-wrenching decision Buffy had to make in sacrificing her love for the sake of the world. When I was 17 I kept making the same mistakes too. Eventually I wised up. It was harsh on Buffy but in the end I think she needed to hear that kind of honest criticism from her friends. Though perhaps not from Joyce, but after all she had had schnaaps and her tongue was loose. **Hey, Spoilers above** Hiyas to Alex, kim!, Alias, Xana, Avarice, Mircalla, *LB*, Tiamat and Godeater and other fellow LOSERs tonight E.

^ Xana says: (Wed Oct 7 00:56:30 1998 24.1.80.34) Alex - thanks for the epsiode name info... Alias - do you know if Moriah got my check? could you find out? puh-leez? Avarice - go to bed my fine leathered friend... Lady Bathory - go to bed too! Xana still lurking...

^ Lady of Buffdom says: (Wed Oct 7 00:53:59 1998 134.69.7.204) Hi all!! I finally made it to LOSERs tonight, I wasn't sure if it was going to happen. I see there's a lot of talk going on about DMP, so I'm off to scroll...be back in a while. SO's to Avarice, erestor, gazoo, Grinn, kim!, KrazyKat, Lady Bathory, Malista, MERLIN, Mircalla, WitchyWoman, and anyone else I've missed (sorry, I'm trying to build my SO list). -Lady of Buffdom L.O.S.E.R. STAB #14 LWLB #11 BATOC PBA #234 XDC #292

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 00:52:25 1998 207.175.238.144) Thank you Lady Bathory! My pleasure :)

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:50:57 1998 12.64.8.158) DID I MISS KMFRYE!?!?!?!?! Oh sweet lordy... Alias who has been in mourning over the disapearance of his MajorNewbie General and several truckloads of clones....

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:50:38 1998 12.64.8.158) DID I MISS KMFRYE!?!?!?!?! Oh sweet lordy... Alias who has been in mourning over the disapearance of his MajorNewbie General

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:49:55 1998 152.167.104.82) Mircalla: What is your definition of "Gone in a Ty King way"? -Alex

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:49:41 1998 209.162.40.137) Alias, Addy is same (both of 'em)... :)

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:49:08 1998 152.167.104.82) Av: To my utter disgust, during this past weekend when I was with family at the place where the Pro Am Golf Tourny is taking place, my aunt took several pics of me with spikey blonde hair..amid many bad jokes. Just the same, you're doing Vegas right? You'll see soon enough..I promise blonde spikes. -Alex

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 00:48:37 1998 207.175.238.144) Avarice Hey Sweety! I did indeed like the episode. SPOILER BELOW * Not just because it was better than Anne but because it stands well on it's own in term of emotional scenes and character development. (I think everyone has grown up ALOT) And I liked that it (once again) left more juciness for later. It kinda supports the feeling I had re: Anne, that it seemed like an episode that was "tacked on" to the begining. I sense a huge momentum building because I got the feeling that when Buffy finally tells the Gang that she had to "kill" Angel, the emotional s**t will hit the fan. They will be sorry the judged her actions so harshly and will put her duties (which Xander seemed so proud of himelf for assuming) into better perspective. 5 4 3 2 1Spoiler above What did you think?

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:48:19 1998 205.188.195.41) Okay...yawn...I'm getting...sleepy... I am now going to attempt to do the sleep thing. Y'all know that those attempts aren't always successful...but I'm gone, possibly in a Ty King sorta way... It's been virtual. Later, Lady Bathory, Erestor, Alex, Ali, Alias, AKA BECKER, Avarice, Noodles, devil, Sam, Xana, Bruces Mom, and *LB*. Also to all lurking LOSERS. Mircalla Lady Bathory...you can share Steve...but you have to remember to give him back...

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:47:44 1998 152.167.104.82) Ali: Doubtful. I'm fairly sure that Sophia only doubled for Sarah.. -Alex

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:47:19 1998 12.64.8.158) Avarice It goes..knee deep in whup but it goes :P Need to know if your Mailing Address is the same and if not send me a new one please ASAP! That goes for you as well Alex! That whole Epppy thing..SPOILER I would have LIKED to have seen some exploration into Willow's wicca over the summer but I guess that will come later. One thing I noticed though...no Bronze. The meeting place was a Coffee Bar and it wasn't even Starbuck's! Eppy type SPOILER thingy above! Alias

^ Avarice Fading Fast says: (Wed Oct 7 00:47:04 1998 209.162.40.137) Bathory, my dear... no chance unpacking the boxes. :) They're taped, and I'm more likely to push the dern things over the balcony than unpack them... I like all the room! :) But Charisma shows up, and I miss her??!!? That stinks (cuz I missed her)... And then missed Joss... If I didn't have that whole pesky "roof over the head" and "feed my face" thing that had to be taken care of, I'd... well... seriously consider... ya know... cutting back to 60 hours per week, damn it! >:-| Alex, oooh, ya got a spikey hair thing goin?? :) Take pictures!! 8-)

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:41:36 1998 209.162.40.137) Alias! Hey there, man! :) How goes?? K, I agree with damn near everything you said... personally, I'd rather have seen Giles pull a "Ripper" on Snyder... but that would have been an almost sexual thrill... can't have that! ;-) And personally, I don't think ANY of the relationship problems were resolved... Giles, Cordy, and Oz seemed to be the only ones who "appeared" to be moving on, and supporting her (perhaps they were the only ones who realized what she was going thru, or just more supportive that the others??)... Willow and Buffy seemed to be beginning, and there was nothing said about Buffy and Xander... and by the way, I think X was a little harsh on the Buffster... but he's a guy, and Willow's bud, and probably still has a deep-seeded thing for the Buffster, and... Sorry... rambling a bit there, huh?? :)

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:40:30 1998 205.188.195.41) AKA BECKER: No prob. I agree w/you on a lot of what you said. I, too, have been on both sides of similar issues. These last two eps have touched on some personal issues for me...not going to share any more than that...but I'm sympathetic to ALL involved (but I still retain my right to be a bit pi$$ed at Xander). Anyway, done. I'm not going to be serious ANYMORE tonight? Where's the Cool Whip? Mircalla

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 00:39:44 1998 208.152.26.69) Alex- I know the window thing was Sophia, but I am talking about out on the lawn.

^ Lady B. says: (Wed Oct 7 00:38:54 1998 152.173.69.82) devil Wow. Cool Whip. Wow. Mircalla Alas, no. It was having to do with that Reservoir Dogs poster, with Steve on the ground and Harvey over him, and the thought was... wait, family board.

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:37:40 1998 152.167.104.82) Ali: Nope. That was Sophia that went hurling through the glass. I was told that she asked to wear a body suit because the roof was so rough and was causing huge scrapes and it wouldn't do at all to have her legs wrecked.. Sam: In spite of myself I find myself liking you..if anyone asks I'll deny it though. Av: Aye. I'm afraid that my hair is doing the evil Angelus spike thing also... Xana: Apro pos..episode Seven is called REVELATIONS. I haven't a clue who it was writteb by but I'd wager either Joss or Marti. I know that ep four was penned by Marti and ep six by one of the new staff writers(an incredibly nice lady whose name escapes me) who Seth seemed to really jam on. -Alex "I'm in ecstacy." -Four Star Mary/Dingoes Playing Thursday at the Martini Club.

^ Sam Hain says: (Wed Oct 7 00:36:13 1998 206.14.37.128) Mircalla: I envision flying fruit and vegetables. Erestor: Why thank you. But my 21 birthday isn't until March. So no drinking for me(cough, cough. We are talking the main PBP in LA, yeah? I'm willing to bet I can drive, as long as I start saving my pennies tomorrow.

^ Lady B. says: (Wed Oct 7 00:36:04 1998 152.173.69.82) Mircalla It's all good. Just gotta remember that the dentist is my friend. The dentist will not bite me and throw me in the basement. If Steve is your bodyguard, can I borrow him sometime... hee hee *LB* BTW, You ROCK! Love the Steve for FireChief campaign. :) Avarice You know, if you quit your job, youwould wind up unpacking those boxes... and that can never be good. I so need to sleep now... cursed homework!

^ Noodles says: (Wed Oct 7 00:35:30 1998 152.163.205.77) g'night bronzers it's been a blast but this man's gotta sleep

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:34:36 1998 205.188.195.41) devil: wow. That Cool Whip thing was a bit...graphic. Whoa. Whoa. Re: Cordy's dress: fierce in a good way. Something that I would love to wear if I lost 20 pounds, grew 7 or 8 inches taller, and got a face transplant...um. That was Ally McBealish, wasn't it? Lady Bathory: Was that Cool Whip thing anything like the thought you had about your Steve/Harvey poster? Um, you don't have to answer...perhaps you don't want to think about such things in your weakened state... Mircalla I try to do the lurk thing, I really do, it just NEVER works!!

^ viking says: (Wed Oct 7 00:34:26 1998 195.198.198.238) Hello everyone! What's up?

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 00:32:55 1998 208.152.26.69) RSO to LB David definately needs sun Ali

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:32:14 1998 12.64.8.158) Ok...gotta jump in here for a minute. S P O I L E R IMHO, "Dead Man" (I belive thats the title of the ep) was far superior to "Anne". With the events that happened tonight, "Anne" was relegated to a foreshadowing of things to come. Things that made this ep great for me? The Scooby Gangs reaction Thats how real people react to a situation like that. Buffy won't talk and they are confused and hurt and don't understand. You can be as compassionate as you wish but your still gonna be sore. Giles Do I need to explain this? Giles slamming Snyder had me cheering. The Overall Story It was good. The story was tight, it tied up most of the loose ends as far as the Scooby gang goes towards Buffy. The only exception is how Giles will react to her. As I said, IMHO, and keeping this short, I felt that this ep relegated "Anne" to simple foreshadowing of things to come. Hats off to Marty! Alias

^ Xana says: (Wed Oct 7 00:32:05 1998 24.1.80.34) big hugs back to Alias!!! miss you buddy! < rant > alas... AIM does not like my cable modem network or something cause everyone else seems to be on it and never get bumped off and yet i always get bumped off and end up resorting to ICQ which i am not a huge fan of and... ACK! < /rant > i must be scrolling too fast cause i have been ignoring some posts...guess i should read some, eh? kinda spoiler-ish... -- i liked this episode... i also liked how things are now looking like they are progressing... on the Wanda column, she mentioned Angel will not be revealed to everyone else until the 7th episode... thank goodness the gang will be kept out of that for awhile... this is not something that should be dealt with right away... among other things... -- end of spoilers cause i don't wanna talk about it anymore... Xana just trust love

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:31:37 1998 209.162.40.137) Captain! Hiya! Long time no chat! Is it me, or does David need a little sun?? Nevermind... :) He definately has Angel hair going again... *LB*, hey there! :) Like the new ep??

^ AKA BECKER says: (Wed Oct 7 00:31:27 1998 152.206.128.180) Mircalla: :-) I'm not angry, just having issue issues. :-) I knew that that is whta you meant in that line you just fixed. I just saw that I misspelled your name before. ACK! Doin' that SPOILER thang Just because I think that what Buffy did was wrong doesn't mean it's not a normal human thing to do. It's not to say that she should be shot or condemned to hell. I just feel that it was wrong to do what she did, and just get yelled at, moe or lest justly by her friends, who she alienated, is not too harsh a punishment for putting the world's future at stake. Yes, she has a breaking point, yest she reached it. Yes she felt she had to leave. but she just has to get it through her heard that she just can't do that. She keeps almost learning that. Every third ep, she leanrs just how important she is, that this is her duty, not her job, that it is a part of her and who she is, not something someone is asking her to do, but she keeps refusing to learn that lesson. Is that unbelievable? No. Is that something she has to deal with to grow, to mature, to becaome a better Slayer and person and to come to some kind of peace with the fact that, until she dies, she is the Slayer? Absolutely. Can I understand her doing what she did? Yes, but I cannot condone it. And as I have said before, I've been on both sides of as similar a thng as you can get without delving into supernatural stuff. The whole thing was handled badly by everyone, but it was some of the most realistic writing on TV, so of couse zombies had to break in on it. :-) I hope this clears up my stance on this issue and that I'm not totally missing the point of the opposing viewpoints, but that I hope you can see and understand where my view is coming from and what I find wrong about this opposing viewpoint. Simply, in RL terms, if I was Willow or Xander, I'd be pissed off at Buffy. I'm not even sure if I could hold out until after she tried to run away a second time before I let her know how pissed I was. I'd let her know why I was pissed and after we both yelled at each other and said our sides, a few days later of dealiing with it, and little spats, I'd forgive her and get over it and be friends again. But I'd still be upset, and feel justified in it. Then again, I'm not good at grudge holding. SPOILERISTIC THINGAMABOB UP THAT-A-WAY --AKA-- m-B-d "Welcome home, Buffy."

^ Sam Hain says: (Wed Oct 7 00:31:10 1998 206.14.37.128) Alex: Topics such as the woman thing and that whole AIDs deal? Just between you and me, I don't really believe any of that. But after the first few posts I had dug myself a whole and couldn't have the posters thinking they had beaten me or had changed my view. But I stick by the rest.

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 00:30:35 1998 209.179.24.240) Sam Hain: I, for one, would certainly not shun you. It's often easier to have fervent discussions face to face, over beers even. I suspect it would be an interesting time. glad to see you're a risk taker so come on out in Feb. E.

^ ALI says: (Wed Oct 7 00:29:45 1998 208.152.26.69) LOSERs Stands for Lovers Of Sleepless Evening Repartee-athons

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:28:49 1998 205.188.195.41) Lady B.: I'm sorry! I know who you are, and you know who you are, and everything is okay. You had to eat Jello!?!? Oh, you poor thing... Sam Hain: To paraphrase Xander: We would slay you. Then we would party. JOKE! JOKE! OWWWW! Mircalla runs back to that little corner of the Bronze and nurses her wounds...perhaps she'd better stay here for a while... Mircalla Steve for Mircalla's personal bodyguard

^ Noodles says: (Wed Oct 7 00:28:41 1998 152.163.205.77) Night Bruce's Mom

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:28:08 1998 209.162.40.137) Aw, crap! I missed Joss, too?!?!?! *sigh* I suck... I'm gonna quit my job tomorrow, sign up for welfare, and hang out at the Board all day... maybe I'll start posting completely unbelievable, indefensible theories... Sorry... that was uncalled for... not really, but it sounds PC... And on another thought: I took the time to watch the new beginning sequence, and think it's cool that Seth Green is up there as a regular. :) Cool, huh? Avarice I'd support this show (without complaining) even if they all dressed up like Romans and walked around waving beanie-babies...

^ devil says: (Wed Oct 7 00:27:59 1998 152.16.210.13) MARTI NOXON ROCKS MY WORLD!! Witchy Woman Ick, sounds whuppy. HOpe it subsides soon. Mircalla Yeah, that thing around Buffy's neck looked rather... like a whip. is this little devil thinking about comp. sci. like she should? As for Cordy's dress, fierce in a good or bad way? It's something i might wear hypothetically, if i was really out trolling for hotties. lady b, mircalla if you guys get your steve thing, could Closet Buffyholic, seraphim and I get our scene with Xander and Angel wrestling in speedos, amidst gallons of Cool Whip? And with that, I'm off to get not nearly enoughsleep. Good night all! devil gone

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 00:27:22 1998 208.152.26.69) Spoilers yadda yadda Did anyone else notice, that we did not have as many puns during our zombie fight? I think I noticed that because of the deal they made about it in Anne Also, Was our head Zombie person Sophia? (while in the mask) I mean because we did not have an all out fight with her and SMG, so that would make her availible, The hair looked so much like hers... End Spoiler Ali

^ Bruces Mom says: (Wed Oct 7 00:27:08 1998 209.239.131.47) BuffyNerd, this debate has been going on for as long as I can remember. i'm sure it will resurface again, and again, and again. Sam Hain--you make it interesting. if we all thought the same things about this show this place would become boring quickly. controversy makes it thrive. i look forward to your very contrary opinions. just like i miss what kirby had to say. Bruces Mom, really gone now. WPWP #519 MCTP STAB #21 and official "Spike" slavish Robia devotee non-slavish buffalo devotee keeper, Buffy's kneecap

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 00:27:06 1998 207.175.238.144) SO's to Godeater, Avarice, and Ali

^ Sam Hain says: (Wed Oct 7 00:26:45 1998 206.14.37.128) Bruces Mom: Interesting, but I have covered Buffy's emotional state and reasons behind her actions in "WSWB" in the past. They're aardwolfe approved. But alas they are long or at least at this hour they appear long. I'll type at you tomorrow or this weekend. Okay?

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:26:18 1998 152.167.104.82) Sam: You value my opinion. Is that like a ha-ha, let's laugh at Alex kinda thing or do I detect just the faintest ring of potential legitimacy. I'll be damned. Well if you showed up to a PBP you'd either piss everyone off or you'd have a great time and cruise with it. But perhaps if you do, you and I should make a list of non-discussable topics.. Av: Hiya!!!!! -Alex

^ *LB* says: (Wed Oct 7 00:22:56 1998 207.175.238.144) Topic- As of right now, this is what I think the Scooby Gang knows about the end result of Angelus/Acathla- If Giles and Xander went back to the Mansion, they saw not only that Acathla was dormant, but that the sword had been removed. Which leads them to the conclusion that once Giles unwittingly spilled the beans, Angelus indeed did pull it out. I'm sure that Giles figured out that it would take Angelus's blood to close it also and that Buffy must have staked him to do so. This being the case- Spoiler 5 4 3 2 1 Was it more than callous of Xander to chalk up Buffy's having to stake "Angelus" (as he knew it) as "boy troubles." -OR- Was it to be expected because Buffy did indicate in B1&2 that she was ready to stake him.? "I want it over with." etc. 5 4 3 2 1End spoiler topic

^ Noodles says: (Wed Oct 7 00:22:24 1998 152.163.205.77) Avarice: Not trying to ruin your day/night (honest) but you missed Joss too.

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 00:21:33 1998 204.216.157.219) Alex I'd like to see that, too!!! kim!

^ Lady Bathory says: (Wed Oct 7 00:20:56 1998 152.173.69.82) Mircalla Oh no. Don't start the you/me thing again... I am full of novocain and painkillers and my head feels big and my jaw is sore and I am trying to read a really dry book on fiction writing and I got two hours of sleep last night and my dentist told me that I have to be careful of killer bacteria and I only ate some jello and some soup today and AGHHH! I can't take this! Steve?!?!

^ Sam Hain says: (Wed Oct 7 00:20:34 1998 206.14.37.128) Alex: Whatever makes you happy. Oddly enough I haven't been getting as worked up, on this end with veins protruding from my forehead and neck, as usual. Strange. However tonight I have become somewhat distracted by the thought of what would happen if I showed up to a Posting Board Party. What's your opinion? Believe it or not I value it. Would I be shunned? Leaving my best bet to be going anonymous in hopes of avoiding preconceived ideas about what I'm like face to face. In wearing my title- have I frustrated so many that I'd be jumped out in the parking lot?

^ BuffyNerd says: (Wed Oct 7 00:20:19 1998 207.172.91.190) OK, I have been wondering for two weeks now... What in the world are LOSERS? Alas, these important things are left out of all the newbies FAQs and links. This Buffy selfish slayer debate is interesting and I have more thoughts re: the matter but am too tired. Hopefully this topic will still be discussed in the next few days. BuffyNerd

^ Avarice says: (Wed Oct 7 00:19:52 1998 209.162.40.137) ... OK, rapid-fire thoughts here... gotta use what's left of my day's ration of brain power before the Big Red Switch in my brain shuts off... Hi, kids... :) Lurking for only a short while... been updating my pages for the last few hours, and plan to completely redesign once that's done... :) I know... but I need to keep myself busy! ;-) In case anyone missed my earlier post, I loved the ep, think Marti did a smashing job, and (in my usual role of rabid supporter) would never consider complaining about this ep... Ahem... Read that, Sam? Good job to all! And Hiya, everyone! :) Kicked myself pretty darn good earlier from missing Charisma... didn't get home from work until 5 minutes after her last post... not a happy camper at that point! :( Avarice Lover, Supporter, and Non-Complainer of BtVS

^ Ali says: (Wed Oct 7 00:19:13 1998 208.152.26.69) Ahh, finally LOSERs is here!!! I have been waiting for this. Ali

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:18:59 1998 152.167.104.82) Alias: Greetings and welcome. Tiamat: Off to read.. SPOILERS * * Anyone else think that during alternative takes for the final scene between Buffy and Willow in the cafe that Sarah and Aly might have improved a bit and not with general niceness or without a bit of foulness? Those are bloopers I would love to see. * * * END 'EM SPOILERS -Alex

^ Bruces Mom says: (Wed Oct 7 00:17:59 1998 209.239.131.47) Sam--she knew spike wanted to get drusilla away from her. spike was the one who wanted to skip town, she didn't demand it. in WSWB, she pushed them away to protect them. if they weren't around, they wouldn't be in the line of fire--that's why she hurt them. show me some evidence that this isn't true. and there isn't a shred of evidence what so ever offered in any episode that she left town in B2 to hurt anyone. she needed time away, and with angelus gone especially they weren't in any real danger--also, i know this hasn't been ever pointed out, but she stayed in sunnydale for a few days between leaving her moms house and getting on the bus. i know this because giles and willow were in school. with how beat up giles was, that certainly wasn't the same day. and i doubt willow was released a few hours after waking up. buffy obviously stayed hidden long enough to make sure everything was safe before fleeing--she didn't leave right away Bruces Mom, pulling a Ty

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:16:59 1998 205.188.195.41) Okay, Lady Bathory. Just wanted to know that you were here. I may need the moral support. Sorry you're not yourself...are you having those identity issues again? You're not me, are you? It's okay, you don't have to answer that... I, too, will lurk. Mircalla Steve, yadda

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 00:16:30 1998 208.253.73.170) Alex: You've got mail

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 00:16:21 1998 204.216.157.219) Hiya Alias!! Nice to see you here! kim!

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:15:11 1998 12.64.8.158) That was a little large...sorry...this is me being sheepish.. Alias yet again..now to scroll!!!

^ Alias says: (Wed Oct 7 00:13:49 1998 12.64.8.158) ..you say you want a revolution..well ya know..we don't wanna change the world.. delurking for scrollage... Hi to all the wonderful LOSERS and kim! and Alex and Mircalla and Xana (**HUGS!!!**) and Sam Hain and everyone else who I may have missed and know and don't know and oh my god where's the caffine...:P Alias "try me"

^ Alex says: (Wed Oct 7 00:12:01 1998 152.167.104.82) Sam: You'll forgive me if I choose not to continue with this discussion. I find no redeeming value in your arguments and therefore choose not to waste my time slamming my head against a wall. I see it differently than you. Dramatically so. I guess that's that. -Alex

^ Lady Bathory says: (Wed Oct 7 00:11:50 1998 152.173.69.82) delurk Hey LOSERs. :) Mircalla Still here. But I can't help but lurk in the presence of this... stuff. I am too busy reading posts to make any of my own. And at this point it's not like they'd make sense. I'm not myself. Etc. relurk Lady B. Steve For FireChief!

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:09:23 1998 205.188.195.41) duh, me. That was..."your interpretation of her statement to Lily...", not her interpretation...I. need. sleep. Mircalla Lady B.? You there?

^ Tiamat says: (Wed Oct 7 00:07:52 1998 208.253.73.170) Whoa, I show up early tonight ... and we got people talking about a revolution?? I say we ban the skanky couches & lighting in the Bronze. Viva la Bronze antigua!!

^ Sam Hain says: (Wed Oct 7 00:07:30 1998 206.14.37.128) Alex: Droll, very droll. I've never said that "I" would do this or that. After all, I can't manage my own uneventful existence. But I can analyze, from the outside of a situation, anyone can, and I point out what should have been done and why Buffy ignores her duties. Something that should be second nature to her. Blackheart: Nice, but your analogy lacks sense. A liabilty yes, but if that were her reason for leaving she'd have skipped town long ago. Buffy is incapable of recognizing her weakness, even when it has been pointed out time and time again. With how tonight's epsiode ended we're no nearer to Buffy's great awaking than we were when "WttH" premiered. Arguments and feelings the gang had mustered up over the summer and since her return had finally reached the point of confrontation and were dropped. Bruces Mom: ...and she should believe Spike and Dru had skipped town because? The fact is she didn't bother to stick around because she wasn't worried about their well being. Just their reaction to her absence. Hence her watching them before getting on the bus, she wanted to see them hurt and confused. As illustrated by "WSWB" Buffy vents her feelings by hurting those in the gang. Last year it was verbal and with pushing them away. This year she graduated to killing them, which was more likely than you chose to acknowledge.

^ Xana says: (Wed Oct 7 00:07:18 1998 24.1.80.34) hello everyone... i have been lurking on and off... staying prety much off topic 'cause i can't believe what some people come up with... but i have faith in my LOSERs friends... Xana "mother can't you see I've got to live my life the way I feel is right for me, might not be right for you but it is right for me..." - elsewhere

^ Noodles says: (Wed Oct 7 00:07:15 1998 152.163.205.77) Revolution against what praytell? =)

^ Mircalla says: (Wed Oct 7 00:06:59 1998 205.188.195.41) Sam Hain: LOL! Luckily, it seems that Giles's Citroen will live on...at least until next week... SPOILERS 1 2 3 4 5 AKA BECKER: Angry? Are you really angry? Cause I don't want to debate if people are going to get pissed for real...okay, call me chicken, but I'm a nonconfrontational gal at heart...I agree w/you about Buffy's SECOND runaway attempt. Had she just thrown herself on the bed and had a good cry I would have been sympathetic. I thought that she had explored her issues in Anne, and dealt with (at least some of) them. But I still maintain that I sympathize w/her initial decision, and I don't necessarily agree w/her interpretation of her statement to Lily/Chantarelle. I'm not saying that she necessarily made the best decision possible in running away, but I do think that she was suffering from what Blackheart so eloquently called "combat fatigue". An emotionally destroyed soldier is a bad soldier. And bad soldiers...die. They also endanger those around them. So, I'm w/you on the second attempt, but not on the first. 5 4 3 2 1 SPOILERS OVER Mircalla the wimpoid cowers in a corner of the Bronze, sniffing the air cautiously for the first sign of flames...luckily, Steve the fire chief is near...

^ Erestor says: (Wed Oct 7 00:06:43 1998 209.179.24.240) Yay for L.O.S.E.R.s! scrolling . . .

^ Bruces Mom says: (Wed Oct 7 00:04:28 1998 209.239.131.47) Oh god, i made it to LOSERs hour...i must stop doing this. (it's 3am here) I really, really have to go, but if anyone wants to debate further email me, or go to my page and fill out one of my forms. my reviews are posted for both anne and dmp. night all, it's been real. Bruces Mom episode reviews and more WPWP #519 MCTP STAB #21 and official "Spike" slavish Robia devotee non-slavish buffalo devotee slavish Pittsburgh devotee keeper, Buffy's kneecap

^ kim! says: (Wed Oct 7 00:01:22 1998 204.216.157.219) You've got LOSERs!! kim!

^ Godeater says: (Wed Oct 7 00:00:52 1998 209.148.142.193) Yay me! Got first! Ok, back to writing....

^ Godeater says: (Wed Oct 7 00:00:14 1998 209.148.142.193) LOSERS OF THE BRONZE UNITE! THE REVOLUTION IS NOW AT HAND! Previous Posts